Delivered-To: ennael1@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.82.164 with SMTP id j4csp7889oay; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr26662578wib.6.1337334756776; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from alamut.mageia.org (alamut.mageia.org. [212.85.158.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r6si30249750wif.0.2012.05.18.02.52.36; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.85.158.146; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org; dkim=hardfail header.i=@gmail.com Received: by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix, from userid 486) id 42BF344759; Fri, 18 May 2012 11:52:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CBC44756 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 11:52:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mageia.org Authentication-Results: alamut.mageia.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Received: from alamut.mageia.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alamut.mageia.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id KcWnfA3fUcPz for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 11:52:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5B844739 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 11:52:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so2951420wgb.34 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=//GuipQa2j6YfJ+hvMlBOZaptdSF5+IJzXjWtA+d7Qc=; b=zkBDHQzp5agN+nUwwGjOPePSf1vq42QW3wB3aDrNYRq2zbypGNDTNO0XTloQXHI8x6 thz3HuOSRHXyK6BdCUC7e0J8SLotEyIbomSc3Jb/5bsHwSr26dk1gZqOnatJxvL7+U1j //AdWUHRerX92uBN677IIrjF4O77XFC5MmbVlY4XDnwGI6fSqz/OyViY8l4OrdD4wYE9 Jt5NXt57wMkWijxmfno8+wklJ006mQ6GUylh+27m8qrFqpW4qDNzY3IYQZcw0iAqa6SI 36L3sGFYvPsbAY9OZfXW24SWyrgpgD/a74J3LgacSwbROIkVT4GI88xgyKjgULUczie6 Rfog== Received: by 10.216.139.129 with SMTP id c1mr6903694wej.48.1337334751093; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.13.143 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2012 02:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Romain d'Alverny" Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:52:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: board-private@ml.mageia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [board-private] mandriva, foundation, business server X-Loop: board-private@ml.mageia.org X-Sequence: 49 Errors-to: board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: board-private-request@ml.mageia.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Hi everyone, so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to get a status. He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18) http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/ . So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among which Peroyvind (see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although he doesn't have the full story it seems). He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use Mageia as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute back. Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business server) will get in touch with us to see how we do this technically. He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff sometimes goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is said, he does mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it cool and neutral on our side too. So, here's a suggested plan: * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning (CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related news: - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him), - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back. - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on Mageia". * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days to propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday evening) - interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the previous days, and this release news will hide partially the previous news. * until now, all this has been kept private in board-private: a) knowledge and decision about the foundation, and b) business server thing. Note that about a), people may question both the decision and the fact that it was private, without consulting the Council. We will mail privately Council members to inform them about both a) and b), but still. We won't need further arguments than what we explained to Mandriva, and what the governance says. But still again. In the case of things getting really ugly in the coming weeks, I'd suggest that we call for a vote of confidence to make things very clear (from Council, or from all registered contributors in LDAP). Sorry to make this quick, but we need to approve/reject/amend on this before tomorrow Saturday (even better, this evening) so we can discuss this with Council members in private too before Monday morning.